The First Adam - the Second Adam?
Was Jesus always flesh, even upon his resurrection?
Was Jesus always flesh, even upon his resurrection?
That Christ is no longer flesh, the bible in plain English makes very clear!
From one of your own Trinitarian bibles (others read similarly):
Did the apostle Paul receive his apostleship and commission from a resurrected fleshly Christ, a man? Let the bible speak for itself!
Gal 1:1, 11 HCSB
“Paul, an apostle—not from men or by man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father who raised Him from the dead.”
“Now I want you to know, brothers, that the gospel preached by me is not based on human thought”
Paul did not receive his apostleship from any man, or from human thought, but by means of Christ!
The question asked is, what form was Jesus in when he commissioned Paul to be an apostle to the nations?
Again, let your own Trinitarian bible answer that question, then again, you can try and explain it away!
1 Cor 15:45, 50 ASV
“So also it is written, The first man Adam became a living soul. The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.”
“Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.”
In Gal 1:1 we read, “…God the Father who raised Him from the dead.”, so, since his God and Father raised up his dead son back to life again, in what state or form was he raised up in, was it corporeal or non-corporeal?
Paul in 1 Cor 15:45 make it plain and simple, that Christ became, not just a “spirit”, but, “a life giving spirit” and that “flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God” and it does no good for JW critics to come back with the off the shelf stock statement, that when Jesus appeared to the disciples after his resurrection back from the dead:
“See, a spirit does not have flesh and bones, as I do”
The immediate context shows that the disciples were “terrified”, because they thought that they beheld a spirit, that is, a demonic materialised spirit, Jesus reassured them he wasn’t, “See, a spirit does not have flesh and bones, as I do”!
Jesus could materialise a body of flesh, just as the angels in the past did and could simulate normal human behaviour!
Since, JW critics insist that Jesus was resurrected with the same fleshly body he died in and that at best, they could only argue, that a pile of bones went to heaven as, “flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God”, so, no “flesh and blood in heaven”, but, I’m sure you can find away to speciously explain that away using your theology!
1 Pet 3:18, 19 NASB
“ For Christ also suffered for sins once for all time, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit; in which He also went and made proclamation to the spirits in prison”
The problem with the Modalist and Trinitarian claim that Jesus was raised up in the same body of flesh he died in is problematic, as spirit is antithetical to bodily containment, a spirit being cannot be hemmed in, restricted by the limitations of flesh, not only that, “flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.”, flesh is corruptible, can be made subject to death, can be dissolved…, the inheritance of born again disciples is to go to heaven and “rule as kings and priests along with the Christ”; thus, if Christ and his disciples were still flesh, corporeal, they would still be in a croupy fleshly state, not so a spirit!
Peter makes the contrast between flesh and spirit, Christ was put to death in the flesh, but then, he was made alive (quickened – KJV) in the spirit, which agrees with the apostle Paul’s statement, that Jesus, “…became a life-giving spirit”!
Both Modalists and Trinitarians always fail to see, that for the perfect standard of justice required and demanded by Jehovah was a life for a life, the first Adam forfeited everlasting life for himself and his offspring by rebelling against his creator; Jesus as the equivalent of the one time perfect man Adam took his place and became the second Adam, whereas, the first Adam should have been our everlasting father, Jesus now took his place and is now our everlasting father; for this to be, he had to offer himself as a (one off) sacrifice, his perfect flesh and his blood, his body would perfectly atone (atonement) for the first Adam’s rebellion and give humanity a second chance to live forever, as Jehovah had first intended; upon Jesus’ death, his Father accepted the merit of his son’s sacrifice in exchange for giving man a second chance for all who would put faith in the son of God, Jesus Christ!
Jehovah's perfect standard of justice had to me met!
Heb 2:17 HCSB
"Therefore, He had to be like His brothers in every way, so that He could become a merciful and faithful high priest in service to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people."
"... He had to be like His brothers in every way..."
...were his disciples god/men or just men, if Christ was not "like His brothers in every way..." (perfection aside) then he was either less than them or more than them, no exceptions, if Christ was less than his disciples the the "corresponding ransom" (antilytron) would be null and void, and Jehovah's perfect standard of justice would not have been met and thus rejected!
If, on the other hand, Jesus was more than his disciples, then Jehovah's standard of justice would have been demanding too much and again,the "corresponding ransom" (antilytron) would be null and void!
Jesus had to be the exact equivalent to the first Adam, anything more or less would not satisfy God's perfect standard of justice, a perfect life was demanded, no more, no less!
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